Westmoreland UK Bantings
Just to give some background to the Westmoreland UK Banting’s who crossed the water to Canada
William Banting = Agnes Fisher
These two were married on 17th August 1793 in a place called Warcop Westmoreland.
Agnes was certainly from these parts, she was christened on 28th July 1773 in Warcop. Where William was from we do not yet know.
The name Fisher rang a few bells with a me in that Rachel Banting = James Fisher in Childrey Berks in 1770. Probably a red herring but you never know….
William and Agnes had children Thomas bp. 9th Feb 1800Brough Under Stainmore Westmoreland and William bp. 11th Aug 1804
Thomas = Isabella Thompson in 1822 in Appleby Kendal
Their daughter Ann bp. 4th Jan 1824 Appleby Kendal
Ann then turns up in Canada married to an Irish man called Thomas Canning b.1822, not yet certain where or when they married but they are Wesleyan Methodists and so I need to check the non conformists records.
Their children are; Ellen b.1846, Richard b.1847, Joseph b.1850, Thomas b.1852, Catherine b.1854, Jane b.1856, Jeanetta b.1860, Agnes b.1865
If anyone can fill in any of the gaps that would be great. Just leave a comment. Did any of this family make the hop to Australia as has been suggested and where did William who married Agnes come from?
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I also have Thomas/Isabella having a son “William James Banting” (b.1840 – York, Ontario, Canada (now Toronto), d. Jan 25 1925, Wyoming, Lambton, Ontario, Canada).
Thanks for that Mike, did you see the latest posts on Westmoreland Bantings? Someone who has done some excellent family history work (pre-internet) is very interested in the Canadian side as she has no knowledge of this part of the cluster. I will create a post on your info, I hope soon to be able to have the ability for others to post directly. The gravestone heading in Warcop is very interesting isn’t it and that is probably the clue as to why the Bantings went out to Canada. I am going to search for a will for Thomas Abams to try and track down the Canadian property he is meant to have left.
Helen. I have emailed you a transcription of the will of Thomas Abram and also that of his wife Isabella. She left the property in Canada to a relation of Ther husband Thomas Abram.
Hi! Thomas Banting and Isabella Thompsons son William James Banting married Elizabeth Bennett. They’re buried in Mandaumin/Dunlop Cemetery, Elizabeth is listed on her headstone as Betsy Banting, their 27 day old infant daughter is bureid with her. They also had a daughter named Isabella M. Banting 1yr 2 months at the same cemetery. He’s buried there but the cemetery couldn’t read his headstone. William and Elizabeth also had another daughter named Mary M. Banting and she would be my Great Grandma. I’m still looking for more of her siblings on-line as she had other siblings. Hope this helps whoever needs it and I’ll keep looking for more info. Please keep me informed if you find anymore info I might have missed. Thanks.
Thanks for the comment, I’m sure it will help people, can I put it up as a post so that more people get to view it? As time allows more and more will get put up, so anything you feel able to share will be very much appreciated.
We have someone here in the UK who is looking into the origins of the Westmoreland Bantings so keep an eye on the site and I will post as and when able.
Once again many thanks
Yes you certainly may post for others to see, hopefully helps others in their search as well. I mentioned were the family was buried, the cemetery is in Ontario, Canada. The family resided in and around the Wyoming area. Still trying to find as much info as I can about the family.
> Thomas Banting and Isabella Thompsons son
They also had another son “Thomas” (1836-1926), to which I am a descendant.
Thank you so much MikeB, this info will really help fill in the blanks I’m missing.
Hi MikeB, I’m also a descendent of Thomas Banting and Isabella > Thomas + Mary Fenton > Sidney Ernest Banting + Bella Alberta Bradley > Kathleen Alberta Banting + William Le Roy Smith > Sheila Louise Smith + undetermined father = me, Theresa (Terry) Marie Smith. I haven’t run across a Mike yet, obviously missing something.
Hi there, from the research I’ve been able to do, Elizabeth Bennet and William James Banting had four children: Isabella M, Thomas Henry Lucas, Mary Banting and Betsy. The only dates I have are for Betsy. He also was married to Margaret Climie b. 1853 and they had 10 children: Della May 1878-1891, John Wilfred b. 1880, William Thomas, b 1881 and he married Cora Etta Fenton 1882-1969, James C Banting b. 1883, Trueman Earnest b. 1884 and married Dora Farkins, Harriet Beckwith 1886-1960, Albert E. b. 1887 who married Blanche J. Brown, Milton E b. 1890, Andrew Roy 1896-1896, Robert Franklin b. 1898.
Hi! I’ve done some more digging around and found out that Elisabeth Bennett is buried in Mandaumin/Dunlop Cemetery as I said before, she was born 1840 – 26 May 1872. The 27 day old listed on the headstone is their baby girl Betsy Banting and she died May 19, 1872. Their other daughter is also buried there and her name is Isabella M. Banting, I found no date of birth as of yet and only know she lived 1 yr 2mths.Betsy and William had a daughter Mary Banting ( my Great Grandma). Betsy and William were married on 5 Feb 1863. William remarried on23 Aug 1876 to Margaret Climie 11 Apr 1853 – 1932. They had 9 kids, Della M., William F., H Beckwith, Hattie B., Albert E., Milton E., James C., Andrew Roy and Robert F.. Mary Banting married Thomas Henry Lucas ( my Great Grandprents and they’re buried in Wyoming Cemetery. They had 7 kids, Edward H, Ella May, Lottie Lauretta, David, Ernest, William Thomas “Edgar” and Bessie Mae. From that point on we have some deceased and living relatives so can’t list them without permission. Hope this info helps some people out. Still trying to locate Willam James Banitngs Grandparents and back, I have his parents and that’s it, hopefully I’ll have luck in finding out more.
I can fill some gaps on the Canada Bantings. From what I know and can gather, there were some who went to Ontario and one arm, so more than one Banting, migrated west through Saskatchewan, but largely gravitated in Manitoba. I’m in the Manitoba Banting line, but the line comes from Ontario and back to England – Isabella Thompson and William Thomas Banting.
The family has a disturbing habit of naming everyone the same handful of names and combinations thereof, plus the awarding of traditionally familial first names and middle names they were more commonly know by, reported as such in censuses etc. Love the family large, but I gave my kids brand new names.
Comments on this site have helped me fill some gaps, even Canada connections that weren’t showing up in records or censuses, so thank you for that.
I’m still trying to fill in the Ontario Bantings, the Bantings in Canada were prolific. I’ve been building on ancestry.ca. I’m not sure how to share the tree. I’m not subscribing at present, been building from what I can find and what I know, but it’s a pretty good tree.
A thought… my Great Uncle Ralph Banting’s wife, Addie, did a lot of research into the Bantings and she tied it into Bentig in Holland, if I recall, 1500s. No basis of proof at present and I have no clue who is the curator of that research now.